# Source: https://docs.pipecat.ai/deployment/pipecat-cloud/guides/telephony/daily-dial-out.md

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# Daily PSTN Dial-out

> Using Daily’s Transport to make calls to external SIP Addresses and PSTN numbers

To initiate outbound calls, you first need to configure your Daily rooms to allow dial-out by setting `enable_dialout` in `dailyRoomProperties`. Then, include the target phone number(s) in the request `body` of `{service}/start`.

In this example, we use the `dialout_settings` array to pass one or more phone numbers for the bot to dial. Each object in the array must include a `phoneNumber` and can optionally specify a `callerId` to control the outbound caller ID.

<Info>
  If no `callerId` is provided, a random phone number will be used to make the
  call. To specify the caller ID, use the [phone number's
  `id`](/guides/telephony/daily-phone-numbers#list-all-purchased-phone-numbers)
  as the `callerId`.
</Info>

```bash  theme={null}
curl --request POST \
--url https://api.pipecat.daily.co/v1/public/{service}/start \
--header 'Authorization: Bearer $API_KEY' \
--header 'Content-Type: application/json' \
--data-raw '{
    'createDailyRoom': true,
    'dailyRoomProperties': {
        'enable_dialout': true,
        'exp': 1742353929
    },
    'body': {
        'dialout_settings': \
        [{'phoneNumber': '+1TARGET', 'callerId': 'UUID_OF_PURCHASED_NUM'}]
    }
}
```

<Info>
  The API\_KEY here is Pipcat Cloud's [public API
  key](../../fundamentals/accounts-and-organizations#api-keys), typically begins
  with "pk\_..."
</Info>

The bot should begin dialing out as soon as the call state transitions to the `joined` state.

Unlike dial-in scenarios where the bot typically speaks first, dial-out calls may require the bot to wait for the remote user to speak. In these cases, you can start listening for the remote user when the `on_dialout_answered` event fires.

This is also a good point to initiate voicemail detection—for example, by analyzing the remote user's audio to determine if the call has reached a voicemail.

```python  theme={null}
@transport.event_handler("on_call_state_updated")
async def on_call_state_updated(transport, state):
    if state == "joined" and dialout_settings:
        await start_dialout(transport, dialout_settings)

@transport.event_handler("on_dialout_answered")
    async def on_dialout_answered(transport, data):
        # the bot will wait for the user to speak before responding
        await rtvi.set_bot_ready()
```

### Examples of `dialout_settings`

Here are various configurations you can use in the `dialout_settings` array:

<CodeGroup>
  ```json Twilio SIP Address theme={null}
  "dialout_settings": [
    { 
      "sipUri": "sip:+1xxxx@domain.sip.twilio.com" 
    }
  ]
  ```

  ```json Phone Number with CallerID theme={null}

  "dialout_settings": [
    {
      "phoneNumber": "+1xxx",
      "callerId": "uuid"
    }
  ]

  ```

  ```json Multiple Phone Numbers theme={null}
  "dailout_settings": [
    {
      "phoneNumber": "+1xxx",
      "callerId": "uuid-1"
    },
    {
      "sipUri": "sip:+1xxxx@domain.sip.twilio.com"
    },
    {
      "phoneNumber": "+1xxx",
      "callerId": "uuid-1"
    }
  ]
  ```
</CodeGroup>

## Next Steps

After configuring your dial-out functionality, you can implement a Pipecat bot to handle the call interactions:

<Card title="Dial-in/Dial-out Bot Example" icon="phone" href="https://github.com/pipecat-ai/pipecat-examples/tree/main/phone-chatbot/daily-pstn-dial-out">
  Complete example of a Pipecat bot implementation that handles both incoming
  (dial-in) and outgoing (dial-out) calls with voicemail detection
</Card>